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"You're standing at the mouth of Hell. And it's about to open up." *

***
"I'm beyond tired. I'm beyond scared.
I'm standing on the mouth of Hell and it's going to swallow me whole. And it'll choke on me." **
* Joss Whedon
** Marti Noxon & Douglas Petrie
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
That's how I try to think. Just seems to me that labeling something feminist because it aligns with a specific person's ideal is doing the same thing. Too many people think freedom should be limited to people agreeing with them.

Hmm. If I'm reading you correctly, I'm sorry if I've given off the impression that I demand agreement; that is certainly not the case. (What I do demand is a modicum of civility on my LJ and I've been pretty firm about that. And being respectful and mindful of the fact that at the other side of one's computer is another human being.)

There are a lot of people who call themselves feminists and I certainly don't agree with everything they have to say; or they find my "feminism" wanting. That doesn't make the general ideas any less important to me. And I wasn't attempting to limit you in any way. Perhaps simply saying "Wow, you certainly show a lot of awareness about issues that are important to me and I really enjoy our conversations" will satisfy?
From: [identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com

Oh, certainly not. I meant in the case of what freedom is, some people seem to think it extends only so far as they're own views of it. So you see a lot of people being labeled "not really feminist" because their views don't align with a standard measure. The idea that someone would of their own free will choose to be different never occurs to them.
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Ah, gotcha.

I remember a copy of Ms Magazine while I was - in college, I think? With Gloria Steinem, bell hooks, Urvashi Vaid, and maybe one other women on the cover, and they cover tag "Feminists Don't Agree about everything - who says they have to?"

And I wondered, who said they did to begin with? (Then I started analyzing the relative position of each of the women on the cover to one another and what that MEANT. Remember, college student.)

As my friend Kendra said to me one time "Everyone has their own politics." Our opinions rarely mesh 100% with any given "party line" (and I tend to be suspicious of those who do, it implies to me a lack of free thinking.)

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