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1) The deadline is tomorrow, Friday the 20th at midnight for  both [livejournal.com profile] otherworldlyric challenge #166 , "Easy Way Out" by Gotye, and [livejournal.com profile] slayerstillness challenge 20 "Love Song for a Vampire. More entries are needed - and I'm sitting both of these out, so don't look at me. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the pretties this time around.

And just in case you're easily confusable - a.k.a. "moi" - OWL is the multifandom icontest where you have to use at least two consecutive words from the lyrics of the challenge song. SS is strictly Buffyverse (btvs/ats) and icons can have text or not.  Also, SS is the one that opens the entry and voting threads after the winners have been announced. Which can be fun...or kinda awkward, depending. I actually kind of like it, but wait until an icon I'm sure is gonna win loses big time. Then we'll see what pennywhistle I'm tooting with.)

2) A little bird in fandom (thank you little bird!) informed me that my blog has been rec'd by "snowdropsandtigers" on tumblr.

"On a relevant—yet off-topic—note, it occurs to me that I want to recommend a blogger to follow, in case that might help and you don’t know of her. She’s on LJ and she’s very much a Buffy fan first and Spuffy shipper second, and gives love to the other characters too: http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/  I’m kind of terrible and lurk much more than talk, but I’ve been reading her meta—and the meta she links to—for a while and find it all really lovely."

And I'm just - what do I say except THANK YOU? I don't know who they - who you - are, but I'm really incredibly flattered by your kind words.  I would love to thank snowdropsandtigers (what a wonderful, evocative penname!) but I haven't a tumblr account so - THANK YOU SO MUCH, whoever you are.

And also, what they said about shipping is extremely relevant to my own thoughts of late:

"I’ve experienced that. Unfortunately, I’ve also experienced other fandoms being pretty much the same. The ones I’ve gotten into after getting into Buffy in 2005 do the same things frequently (ship wars; whitewashing characters, usually dudes; distorting characterization/valuing characters mainly for ships, especially with female characters; drama between the fans themselves.).....It burns one out."

That's pretty much the nutmeat of a meta I've been wanting to write on the subject so all I can say at the moment is - ME TOO. Or, WORD. (Is that even a "thing" anymore, that use of "word"? I don't know. You tell me.)

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-23 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwork-hart1.livejournal.com
Give me so many female characters that the F/F fic on AO3 outweighs the M/M fic.

may I point you to the skins (uk) fandom? The f/f following is huge due to the fan preferred (and cannon to boot) lesbian super couple Naomi and Emily and all of their beauty. The series is separated into generations, and though gen 1 has more m/m due to an explicitly gay character and arguably bisexual boy who had a prolific sex scene and the extensive homoerotic subtext between the latter boy and his best friend (who sleep in the same bed, one partially and he other totally naked in an episode, and in another have a conversation featuring the dialogue "I always loved you the best"), the other generations (2&3) are mostly comprised of lesbian shippers.

All of that said, avoid the universally despised "Skins fire", part of a finale series that told the "what happens now?" stories of three main characters. To put it bluntly, the fuckers gave one half of the aforementioned super couple a fatal cancer and the fandom massacred the writers for it. If you never watch it, the mourning need be avoided.
It's disgusting how often the female characters are slain. It's fucking gross and I'm am so seriously pissed off about it. It's the reason I started writing in the first place. I wanted dynamic females, beautiful and broken and strong who I knew would make it to the end of the book/movie/episode and when life wouldn't give me them I wanted to write them myself. I'm actually looking in to writing some scripts for a few ideas I've had and pitching them to some networks because I NEED A STORY THAT MEETS MY NEEDS EVEN IF I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF.

*climbs off soapbox

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-23 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwritten.livejournal.com
I meant this in general - but thanks for letting me know! I have S1 downloaded because I promised a friend a while back that I'd start watching Skins and this is the little push that I needed!

I'm actually looking in to writing some scripts for a few ideas I've had and pitching them to some networks because I NEED A STORY THAT MEETS MY NEEDS EVEN IF I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF.
YES.
OKAY THIS.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-23 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwork-hart1.livejournal.com
I have so many feelings about that show, you have no idea. http://clockwork-hart1.livejournal.com/20454.html

Nothing is what it seems, everyone is very broken and that's something I kind of love about it. The idyllic party scene is just a facade and the characters are very human underneath, despite how they might appear. It gets a lot darker in season 2, in fact, every second season is darker that the last except maybe s6 which IS dark but is also full of backwards characterisation and stupid plots that still makes me kind of angry. Ugh feelings.

VIVA LA REVOLUTION INDEED!!

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-23 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I'm actually looking in to writing some scripts for a few ideas I've had and pitching them to some networks because I NEED A STORY THAT MEETS MY NEEDS EVEN IF I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF.

I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PLAN. Hugs, cookies, cheering, beta'ing, kicks in the butt - whatever you need.

Even if it doesn't get "greenlighted" it could be a play, a book; and nowadays making a film is becoming so much cheaper thanks to digital technology.

And thank god for the internet. I'm not sure if folks who have always had it in their lives realize what an amazing tool it can be. My friend Christine introduced me to fanfiction - she wrote Deep Space 9 fanfic that she copied and stapled herself on a mimeograph machine. Which meant that a couple of people got to see it at best.

we NEED to tell our own stories. We can't wait around for others to do it for us.

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-24 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwork-hart1.livejournal.com
THIS IS SO APPRECIATED. I need to get some things written, but my ideas shift so quickly. I might start with characters rather than a story and let them take me where they need to go. I just want a thing full of beautifully flawed, funny, intelligent, mistake-making ladies that I can relate to and I want them to not die. A part of me wants to have a mixed cast and slowly kill off the male characters just to prove a point about fridging - just to see if people take notice rather than brush it off like we're expected to do when the girls die in the things we love.

My feelings are so raw right now.

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-24 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
A part of me wants to have a mixed cast and slowly kill off the male characters just to prove a point about fridging - just to see if people take notice rather than brush it off like we're expected to do when the girls die in the things we love.

But OMG you can't do that! That will mean you're a reverse sexist! How dare you! */end snark* Never mind if you're doing it to make a POINT, and not for the sake of "entertainment".


Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-24 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwork-hart1.livejournal.com
Well, depending on the guys in question, it might be a LITTLE entertaining...

Re: (pt 2)

Date: 2014-03-24 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
And this is where I'm supposed to click my tongue and say "bad girl"...but given all the fics I've come across because I do not support the use of rape, torture and murder against women as entertainment...even though I know you're joking.

But I won't of course.

'cause I also know that some of the people who would say just that to you have NO problem with those very things used against female characters. Who enjoy reading about torture as something sexy and will tell you it's "just fantasy". As long as it's used against women that is.

OTOH there are people who love to torture Spike, so....*shrugs*
Edited Date: 2014-03-24 05:10 pm (UTC)

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