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red_satin_doll1) The deadline is tomorrow, Friday the 20th at midnight for both ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
otherworldlyric challenge #166 , "Easy Way Out" by Gotye, and slayerstillness challenge 20 "Love Song for a Vampire. More entries are needed - and I'm sitting both of these out, so don't look at me. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the pretties this time around.
And just in case you're easily confusable - a.k.a. "moi" - OWL is the multifandom icontest where you have to use at least two consecutive words from the lyrics of the challenge song. SS is strictly Buffyverse (btvs/ats) and icons can have text or not. Also, SS is the one that opens the entry and voting threads after the winners have been announced. Which can be fun...or kinda awkward, depending. I actually kind of like it, but wait until an icon I'm sure is gonna win loses big time. Then we'll see what pennywhistle I'm tooting with.)
2) A little bird in fandom (thank you little bird!) informed me that my blog has been rec'd by "snowdropsandtigers" on tumblr.
"On a relevant—yet off-topic—note, it occurs to me that I want to recommend a blogger to follow, in case that might help and you don’t know of her. She’s on LJ and she’s very much a Buffy fan first and Spuffy shipper second, and gives love to the other characters too: http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/ I’m kind of terrible and lurk much more than talk, but I’ve been reading her meta—and the meta she links to—for a while and find it all really lovely."
And I'm just - what do I say except THANK YOU? I don't know who they - who you - are, but I'm really incredibly flattered by your kind words. I would love to thank snowdropsandtigers (what a wonderful, evocative penname!) but I haven't a tumblr account so - THANK YOU SO MUCH, whoever you are.
And also, what they said about shipping is extremely relevant to my own thoughts of late:
"I’ve experienced that. Unfortunately, I’ve also experienced other fandoms being pretty much the same. The ones I’ve gotten into after getting into Buffy in 2005 do the same things frequently (ship wars; whitewashing characters, usually dudes; distorting characterization/valuing characters mainly for ships, especially with female characters; drama between the fans themselves.).....It burns one out."
That's pretty much the nutmeat of a meta I've been wanting to write on the subject so all I can say at the moment is - ME TOO. Or, WORD. (Is that even a "thing" anymore, that use of "word"? I don't know. You tell me.)
otherworldlyric challenge #166 , "Easy Way Out" by Gotye, and slayerstillness challenge 20 "Love Song for a Vampire. More entries are needed - and I'm sitting both of these out, so don't look at me. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the pretties this time around.And just in case you're easily confusable - a.k.a. "moi" - OWL is the multifandom icontest where you have to use at least two consecutive words from the lyrics of the challenge song. SS is strictly Buffyverse (btvs/ats) and icons can have text or not. Also, SS is the one that opens the entry and voting threads after the winners have been announced. Which can be fun...or kinda awkward, depending. I actually kind of like it, but wait until an icon I'm sure is gonna win loses big time. Then we'll see what pennywhistle I'm tooting with.)
2) A little bird in fandom (thank you little bird!) informed me that my blog has been rec'd by "snowdropsandtigers" on tumblr.
"On a relevant—yet off-topic—note, it occurs to me that I want to recommend a blogger to follow, in case that might help and you don’t know of her. She’s on LJ and she’s very much a Buffy fan first and Spuffy shipper second, and gives love to the other characters too: http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/ I’m kind of terrible and lurk much more than talk, but I’ve been reading her meta—and the meta she links to—for a while and find it all really lovely."
And I'm just - what do I say except THANK YOU? I don't know who they - who you - are, but I'm really incredibly flattered by your kind words. I would love to thank snowdropsandtigers (what a wonderful, evocative penname!) but I haven't a tumblr account so - THANK YOU SO MUCH, whoever you are.
And also, what they said about shipping is extremely relevant to my own thoughts of late:
"I’ve experienced that. Unfortunately, I’ve also experienced other fandoms being pretty much the same. The ones I’ve gotten into after getting into Buffy in 2005 do the same things frequently (ship wars; whitewashing characters, usually dudes; distorting characterization/valuing characters mainly for ships, especially with female characters; drama between the fans themselves.).....It burns one out."
That's pretty much the nutmeat of a meta I've been wanting to write on the subject so all I can say at the moment is - ME TOO. Or, WORD. (Is that even a "thing" anymore, that use of "word"? I don't know. You tell me.)
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Date: 2014-04-25 03:56 am (UTC)Originally I never intended to leave comments. I created an account so I could ignore all the role-playing blogs when I searched the tags for fan art. Nah, it's not really conducive to good conversations--the 'reblog' thing is too clunky for that--and it's more geared toward positive reinforcement than critical. For a while there, though, it was the only place for 'Buffy' discussions. Some posters have interesting thoughts, but for the most part it's a rehash of years ago. Mostly I just end up attempting to explain some things were not what people thought they were back then.
But I have nothing to back up that opinion beyond a general intuition sense.
I think it can be, depending on the writer or pairing. I've seen a lot of Buffy/Faith stuff that had a lot of the same vibes as B/S, B/A, B/G, B/X, etc. As I think I said before, I think the only pairing I've read where it wasn't rampant was B/T. Even then there used to always be some Spike bashing, but at least then Buffy used to end it herself as opposed to Tara 'saving' her from him. That could just be me; I'm not much into non-canon slash. I like interactions between characters, but I'm canon first. Like Spangel. I think Spike and Angel have a very, very interesting tension-filled dynamic, but I could never see them as a functional couple.
Well I do get that other people are Spike fans first, or shipping is their primary lens.
Yeah, I get that, but as I said on tumblr it bugs me when they talk smack about Angel fans or Xander fans or Bangel who do the same thing.
It's perplexing.
I saw a lot of rage from Angel fans back then. I think it could be because you seem to hang around Buffy fandom, not AtS fandom and aren't exposed as much to fans of Angel the character. Could be wrong there. Not that I'd blame you. A LOT of Angel fans hate Buffy. I try to avoid them myself except for a few. :P
Whether it was meant to be "subversive" or not, it's gross and mean-spirited towards the characters - and their fans - on any number of levels. But especially towards Buffy herself.
Totally. And really, I don't know how Spuffy fans think it's in the cards after the blatant taunting in 34-37 of S8. The only Spuffy in S10 will end in tragedy or Spike telling Buffy to shove off (which is what a lot of these fans want, lbr).