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[livejournal.com profile] bangel_4e has the voting posts up for ROUND 2 [livejournal.com profile] btvsats20in20 :  1) THEMES,   2) CATAGORY (same image), and 3) ARTIST'S CHOICE.  Make sure you scroll down all the way to the end of each post so you don't miss any poll (says the newbie to these things.)

Voting closes on July 17th. Believe it or not I've already voted, which may be a record for me. I guess I'm just in the right mood? It's not that there's this one standout and it's oh so easy. Nope. Once again, there's so much of pretty equal quality to my eyes, it's the old apples and oranges game, with very pretty fruit in the bowl.

BTW - notice the new Xander icon from round 1 by [livejournal.com profile] mercurialdragon, snagged with permission? I just added it today - the brand new paid subscription I was gifted with includes FORTY icons spaces.*hugs my benefactor tight" Of all the icons from round 1, it's the one that has stuck in my head ever since I saw it, the minature masterpiece that I HAD TO HAVE.

I don't know that I'll be able to pimp this round as consistently as the last one because I'll be away from home and thus the computer for over a week (and weekends are not good for me for 'puter time.)  So do me a favor dears and PIMP THE HECK outta this contest for me, and I will be there in spirit - until I get back anyway.

I feel rather sanguine about it at the moment because I accomplished what I wanted - make Vamp Willow icons that would honor the character, be a little different to what I've seen before; and most especially my beloved Willow Posse on my f'list, two of whom have already snagged icons for themselves.

THAT is the biggest vote and the biggest win in the world, as an icon artist. (Not that I'll refuse other prizes and squee with childish delight but that's the gravy.)

I also found a couple *ahem* more Vamp Willow alts from my set I'd forgotten to post yesterday .

Lesson #1 - it's a lot easier to work with an image or subject I am fascinated by / love / am familiar with. Struggling with VW icons? I'd pop off some Buffy icons or banners just for the fun of it. I think my best and favorite icons here, or the ones that were most fun for me to make, came at the begining and the very end of the process (I finished the last one yesterday.)  In the middle was nearly a month-long slog, or so it felt.

[ Images to be replaced Coming soon!  ]      (1-5)

Lesson #2 - I love this shot of VW something FIERCE.  In fact, loving it too much was one of my biggest problems. I know that image so well, the way I know so many images of Buffy, that it made working with the ones I wasn't familiar with seem that much harder.  And to be honest - my Catagory set is really, in my mind, my AC set. I adored the way some people made their AC sets very of a piece last time, ([livejournal.com profile] spikesredqueen's Cordelia set comes immediately to mind as one of my favorites in that regard); so I ended up trying to give the same attention to Catagory this time almost by mistake; so that when I finished those I realized, oh, I have to come up with five more? Rats.


[ Images to be replaced Coming soon!  ]       (6-10)

Lesson #3 - I ship Vamp Xander and Vamp Willow SO HARD.  Aren't they adorable? - in a sick, twisted, pseudo-incentuous "this is why Xander and Willow would be wrong wrong wronged-y wrong but still really HOT way?" Am I the only person in fandom who was disappointed they didn't bring Vamp Xander back for Dopplegangland? Because I'm not into the fellas as you know but DAMN...

Date: 2014-07-11 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetwhip.livejournal.com
Now I have a sort-of-kind-of bunny for a "Vamp Xander comes to Sunnydale" fic. Darn you!

Love your icons deeply, hon!!!!



Gabrielle
Edited Date: 2014-07-11 05:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-11 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Write it! WRITE IT! WRITE IT! *wicked cackle*

Love your icons deeply, hon!!!!

Oh sweetie *blushes, cries, smiles, not necessarily in that order* You are one of the the godmothers, elder stateswomen of Willow fandom in my eyes (and that's no joke). So I'd already be pleased and proud anyway but I'm thoroughly humbled that these work for you. (And of course, all the support you've offered so freely, so it finally feels like I'm able to give back a little bit.)

And I love seeing my icons (yours now) used back at me, I won't lie.

FYI - I will be pretty unavailable starting tomorrow - I might get to check my email once a day or something until we get back to town, so know that I'll be thinking of you while I'm away.

Date: 2014-07-11 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetwhip.livejournal.com
Thanks for warning me that you'll be gone because otherwise I would worry. *hugs*



Gabrielle

Date: 2014-07-11 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
*hugs back* I wouldn't want that to happen! I will try to check in at least once a day so if you need to PM me for any reason please do.

there is supposed to be wifi at the cabins we're staying at, but we'll see how well it actually functions. (there are coffeehouses about.)

Date: 2014-07-11 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetwhip.livejournal.com
Have a great time and don't worry about anything else. We'll all be here when you get back.


Gabrielle

Date: 2014-07-12 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Countin' on it. :D

Date: 2014-07-11 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bangel-4e.livejournal.com
Honey, don't worry about not being able to pimp this round..you already so much, I thank you :)

And VAMP XANDER WAS HOT...shame they didn't bring him back really... :(

Date: 2014-07-11 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
You're welcome hon, I enjoy doing it!

I've finally noticed that the icon contests in general I participate in are decided by a very small number of voters (despite the size of the fandom and number of people on LJ, etc) so I like to encourage participation and not be "clique-ish". OTOH there's something to be said for the small but discerning and discriminating audience....

VAMP XANDER WAS HOT...shame they didn't bring him back really..

Right? There has to be a corner of V X/W shippers somewhere in fandom. I don't get why not. When he throws the matches to his mate and says "I like to watch" - YO, that teensy little hetero part of me I'd forgot existed swooned.

Date: 2014-07-11 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bangel-4e.livejournal.com
Ahahahah, bad Xander is so great!

Date: 2014-07-11 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
All of the pleasure, none of the guilt!

Date: 2014-07-11 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waddiwasiwitch.livejournal.com
You are definitely not the only one disappointed.. Love Vamp Willow and Xander!!

Lovely set of icons especially no 6 and 10.

Date: 2014-07-11 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
You are definitely not the only one disappointed.. Love Vamp Willow and Xander!!

Nicholas made me shiver in a good way when I watched the Wish - he's part of the reason why I prefer it to Dopplegangland. (And guys rarely get to me that way.) Such a great pair, I don't know why there isn't TONS of Vamp W/X shippy fic. WHERE IS THE LOVE?

6 and 10 were almost entered instead, so I love them too. Great choices. :)

Date: 2014-07-11 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waddiwasiwitch.livejournal.com
Come to think of it I don't think I have read any. Might have to go and look for some....

Date: 2014-07-11 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Let me know what you find!

Date: 2014-07-11 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
GIRL I VOTED A BUNCH OF WILLOW ICONS AND I'M PROUD.

Seriously. And generally you know that I tend to prefer Buffy icons (Or at least, I tend to use her as my avatar so I take Buffy icons much more), but in these two rounds the Willow icons are so excellent and your icons beautifully portrayed her. I feel like every Willow fan should be proud, plus she's an awesome character and deserves the appreciation.

This time I love more the icon you used for the challange, but among these ones I really like 1, 5, 6 and 10. Also the 4th icons seems an old picture. Alyson Hannigan looks portrayed like a lady of the Twenties!

Date: 2014-07-11 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com
Also the 4th icons seems an old picture. Alyson Hannigan looks portrayed like a lady of the Twenties!

That's exactly it! She has the 1920's beestung mouth - and it looks like a colorized black and white picture!

Date: 2014-07-12 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
That's exactly it! She has the 1920's beestung mouth

Ah, you've found me out - the girl who grew up studying art and costume and watching old movies on the local afternoon show, and Catwoman. Yes, that mouth, that pretty little mouth. (Why I didn't figure out I was a lesbian MUCH earlier is...the fault of the culture I grew up in and the total silence surrounding the subject.)

and it looks like a colorized black and white picture!

Actually it's the perfect reversal of that - a color photo that's been desaturated. It's a basic crop, lighten, add San Carmen effect filter in Photobucket, the same filter I used (abuse?) pretty damn frequently here:
http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/48989.html
http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/46021.html
http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/43049.html

It's probably a bit lazy of me sometimes but it works - and I don't see anyone else using it, so I figure it's one of my "signature effects".

Date: 2014-07-12 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Thanks sweetie! *Hugs you tight*

you know that I tend to prefer Buffy icons (Or at least, I tend to use her as my avatar so I take Buffy icons much more)

You and me both. but I'll definitely add one of the Catagory icons to my userpics now that I have more space.

but in these two rounds the Willow icons are so excellent and your icons beautifully portrayed her. I feel like every Willow fan should be proud

*blushes* Thank you Kiki! I hope so.

but among these ones I really like 1, 5, 6 and 10

1 and 6 especially were almost the variants I entered. I love both images of course #1, but #6, the pouting VW, really got to me as well. I forget she's in vamp face when I'm looking at it. (She's like a sad puppy - and again that lovely mouth and dark lipstick!)

Also the 4th icons seems an old picture. Alyson Hannigan looks portrayed like a lady of the Twenties!

Absolutely.

Date: 2014-07-11 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerpetals.livejournal.com
I think Vamp Xander and Vamp Willow is the only combination with Vamp Willow I haven't seen much of--at least from what I remember. Which is a shame! It's also the only X/W version I'm really into.

With regard to the first four icons, I don't think I'd ever appreciated that shot of Willow so much until now.

And I really like the coloring in seven; it reminds me of lion illustrations, with her hair around her like a mane.

Date: 2014-07-12 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I think Vamp Xander and Vamp Willow is the only combination with Vamp Willow I haven't seen much of--at least from what I remember. Which is a shame!

I feel like we're tappin' into something here; like, if they had a ficathon or comm for those two, would anyone come out and play? There seems to be some real VX/W love here.

It's also the only X/W version I'm really into.

So much word. (It's the only version of Xander I'm into, for that matter.)

With regard to the first four icons, I don't think I'd ever appreciated that shot of Willow so much until now.

Thanks! *dusts off hands* I made icons from that shot for the first time back in May and wanted to re-explore that image. It's one of those rare caps I can saturate, desaturate, increase or decrease contrast, etc and it looks good any which way.
http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/38760.html

it reminds me of lion illustrations, with her hair around her like a mane.

Oh nifty, I'd never thought of that!

Date: 2014-07-12 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerpetals.livejournal.com
I feel like we're tappin' into something here; like, if they had a ficathon or comm for those two, would anyone come out and play?

I don't write fic, but I would hope so!

I'll be back later with further icon commentary--I've been falling asleep ever since I returned home. Hope you'll have a good time away!

Date: 2014-07-12 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I don't write fic, but I would hope so!

I'm surprised I haven't stumbled over it (I've stumbled over everything else imaginable - but then again I didn't know about the Mr Gordo fandom until yesterday so there's probably lots out there i've yet to discover. but just here on LJ I haven't seen anything.)

It occurs to me that "ficathon" is the wrong word because I also encourage art, videos, meta (you may have noticed *lol*). "Festival"? I like that term. *ponders*

Hope you'll have a good time away!

Thanks!

Date: 2014-07-13 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerpetals.livejournal.com
It occurs to me that "ficathon" is the wrong word because I also encourage art, videos, meta (you may have noticed *lol*). "Festival"? I like that term.

Yeah--some fandom events have been called "Whateverfest," I think, so that's a good word for it.

Getting back to the icons:

I really like #6; zeroing in on her pout like that shows just how Willowy she still is in vampire form. Especially since you're showing it while she's in vampface.

Then the last two, with Xander's hand on Willow's hair as they feed, with them smiling and close. It's just so sweet and cute in that villainous way. It fits how convincing they were as a couple despite the short amount of screentime they got.

It's the only version of Xander I'm into, for that matter.

I hold some affection for Xander, possibly more than I would have if I hadn't watched the series when I did, but yes. I'm not into him much. This version of Xander is more interesting, partly because obviously he is willing to enter into couplehood with Willow instead of being content until she had someone else. I wonder how that went. I assume it began with Willow being turned first when Buffy wasn't there to save her, and then she would have turned him, but after?


Date: 2014-07-12 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snogged.livejournal.com
I went and voted. YAY! It looks like there was a great turn-out and it was hard to choose favorites. I think I managed well enough though.

I'm glad you're enjoying all the shiny icon space.

Vamp!Willow is definitely one of my favorite characters on the show and I felt you handled her well.

Also, I agree that Vamp!Xander is one sexy man-beast. Would have loved to see what happened if he had shown up a la "Dopplegangland."

Date: 2014-07-12 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I went and voted.

Hurrah!

I'm glad you're enjoying all the shiny icon space.

*hugs you* I'm even enjoying the anticipation, because I'll probably wait until I get back from vacation to fill any more up. (one of these vamp Willow catagory ones will be filling a slot, I just have to decide which one!) You're a dear, dear friend, did I mention that before?

Vamp!Willow is definitely one of my favorite characters on the show and I felt you handled her well.

I'm really honored that you think so, it was one of my goals here!

Would have loved to see what happened if he had shown up a la "Dopplegangland."

I was disappointed that he didn't! And that's no small thing because it's rare for me to find a guy (actor or character) sexy. Not just "handsome or sexy in the abstract" but "gives me chills like whoa."

Date: 2014-07-12 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snogged.livejournal.com
Have a wonderful trip, darling!

*hugs tight*

Date: 2014-07-12 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Thank you, dearheart!
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Date: 2014-07-12 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
You snagged one my VERY favorite icons of that entire set! *squees* It was originally going to be my levels icon. My it looks pretty.

I pretty much only like the alt!Xanders ... Hyena, Vamp, Army ... I like those guys ... normal Xander annoys the crap out of me for reasons.

Yup. I bet we have similar reasons.

So if I just watch my griping on the topic ... think we can try again? We get along so well on things that don't include that ship and well ... I just kinda miss you.

Sure, I'm willing to give it another go! We do have lots in common don't we?

If we practice mutual respect and courtesy, hold one another's hearts dear (I've learned some lessons) and back away from certain sticky topics, we can make it work.

ETA: I am really still bowled over that you think so highly of my artwork. *blushes*

Edited Date: 2014-07-12 01:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-12 12:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] teragramm.livejournal.com
I voted and it wasn't too hard because there weren't a ton on entries. Which is good and bad at the same time! BTW... I love your #5 icon! Great coloring!!

P.S. I hope my comments in your last post helped. My Boss' FIL always say "you can't learn if you don't ask questions" ~_^ So, I hope I answered all your questions.
Edited Date: 2014-07-12 12:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-12 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Oh yes you did thank you! I hadn't had a chance to get back to you and I apologize (we're getting ready for a trip away.) I was going to ask if I could borrow one of the textures?

I don't understand everything you wrote but I understand some and I'm learning more every day.

I'm not sure what the etiquette is on finding and using textures online and crediting. (I've made my own yogurt jar texture, but that was just me cropping my own photo)

The questions I really want to ask are "How did you make the banners for Enchantment Passing Through" "Dawn as Earth Fairty" and "Spuffy Aspect of Their Eyes" because those are three of the loveliest things I've ever seen but that's probably a question for down the road and much learning.

Date: 2014-07-12 11:57 pm (UTC)
ext_106804: (Default)
From: [identity profile] teragramm.livejournal.com
if I could borrow one of the textures? I didn't make the texture was made by [livejournal.com profile] kitamikeita and I found it in [livejournal.com profile] texturize in this post

I'm not sure what the etiquette is on finding and using textures online and crediting. Usually the maker of a texture gives guide lines in their post, but textures can be tricky because even though you found the textures on lj you usually have to go to deviant art to download them. Since I don't have a deviant art account, I don't usually make a comment but I try to put the people I get textures from on my profile page.

I don't understand everything you wrote but I understand some and I'm learning more every day. What didn't you get?

The questions I really want to ask are "How did you make the banners for Enchantment Passing Through" "Dawn as Earth Fairty" and "Spuffy Aspect of Their Eyes" because those are three of the loveliest things I've ever seen I think you are getting me mixed up with another artist.

I hadn't had a chance to get back to you and I apologize (we're getting ready for a trip away.) No problem! We'll "talk" when you get back. Enjoy your trip!
Edited Date: 2014-07-12 11:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-13 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Oh these banners aren't yours? (If not - oops, and my compliments to the artists.)

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/teragramm4/media/banners/minibangbig.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/teragramm4/media/Buffy%20worls/Frozenmemories_B2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/teragramm4/media/Buffy%20worls/s640x480a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=6
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/teragramm4/media/Buffy%20worls/s640x480.jpg.html?sort=3&o=7

Thank you for the links to the texture sites! Encompass Rose has some very nice ones. I wanted to use a text texture for the fic banner I made for clockwork hart's "conclusive etymology" but the ones I liked all said "for deviant art members only." and I wasn't in the mood to spend a long time hunting. *lol*

What didn't you get?

To be honest, I'm a bit blurry right now, what with packing and all that; I'd need to re-read your notes, practice using them, then come back to you. (So it's a matter of me needing to take the time to try things out, not a lack on your end.)

Thank you so much for the help and support, it's so much appreciated!


Date: 2014-07-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
ext_106804: (Default)
From: [identity profile] teragramm.livejournal.com
Enchantment Passing Through Is my banner (I forgot the title of it). It was done for [livejournal.com profile] letsgetitdone mini bang where an artist is paired up with and author to make a banner for a fic. I was paired with the lovely [livejournal.com profile] ladycallie. It was her story and her title, which is why I didn't remember the title.

Frozen Moments was done by the very talented [livejournal.com profile] alwaysjbj, Dawn as Earth Fairty" and "Spuffy Aspect of Their Eyes" was done by the very talented [livejournal.com profile] mary5958 The reason the banners were in my photobucket was because I recommended those three pieces for the community buffyworld which is on dreamwidth. I wish I could do work half as nice as theirs.

Thank you so much for the help and support, it's so much appreciated! Anytime!!
Edited Date: 2014-07-13 10:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-23 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I checked out more of always' and mary's work thanks to your rec - really gorgeous.

Your Enchantment poster is still one of my favorite pieces of fanart ever.

Date: 2014-07-12 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcjulie.livejournal.com
Me! I was extremely disappointed not to get any Evil Vampire Xander.

During Season 3, which has almost no Spike and absolutely no Drusilla, we sometimes talked about how Spike and Drusilla should have their own spinoff show, which would be a 1970s style variety show, kind of like The Gong Show meets Sonny & Cher. (Bad performers would be eaten.)

Evil Vampires Willow and Xander joined the cast midway through. One of the running jokes was people trying to get Vampire Willow to sing, and she would just eat them instead. Vampire Xander did stage magic.

Date: 2014-07-12 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
OOOH! Like, the Wishverse version of the school talent show? THIS NEEDS TO BE A FIC!

*gazes at [livejournal.com profile] beer_good_foamy hopefully*

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