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[livejournal.com profile] bangel_4e very kindly extended Round 1 of [livejournal.com profile] btvsats20in20 from June 4th to June 7th (midnight our time respective time zones).

Thank goodness, because I need 20 icons....I have about 69. Not counting the 40 or so I already deleted or moved to another folder. I completely scrapped the blending ones I did yesterday due to extreme suckage (and not the fun kind either.) My "smile" icon also sucks goose eggs and needs to be scrapped. In fact, I suddenly loathe a whole bunch of them because all I can see is the flaws. I know this because I've been staring at them - too long. And too closely.  (I'm pretty sure staring at the icons with my eyeball about an inch or two away from this little screen would explain my headache. Or it could be martians changing the radio frequency, but whateve.)But my ladylove took the wireless keyboard to work and left me with her older, slower "hey honey I don't think you've got enough files crammed on this thing" laptop instead. Which is slower and harder on my eyes, and doesn't allow me the same control that I'm used to in terms of the "mousepad" vs the mouse. (I can see why some people get those stylus pads that allow them to "draw".) And she's got it set up so the menu bar at the top plays "peek a boo" with me.

In fact, PB won't even show the image when I try to crop it. It won't let me do much of anything today. But I don't know if it's PB or if it's the laptop....*le sigh*

Sure, take away my french easel and my 100% Kolinsky sable hair size 1 brush with a brass ferrule and leave me with a used card table and the cheapest brush in the craft store. Take away my Corvette and leave me with a Datsun. Then take away the Datsun and leave me with a horse-drawn wagon - and then take away the darn horses. Eh, thanks anyway, I'll walk instead.

Also, I haven't kept up with any other icontest challenges currently, and I'm woefully behind in wishing [livejournal.com profile] angearia, [livejournal.com profile] teragramm, [livejournal.com profile] chic_c and [livejournal.com profile] leni_ba very, very happy birthdays.


I'm also woefully behind in in posting my own icons from recent challenges; in keeping up with the latest challenges; thanking everyone who voted my This Year's Girl icon "Best Crop" in [livejournal.com profile] slayerstillness challenge #24, in thanking [livejournal.com profile] tempertemper for the marvelously electrifying - pun completely intended - banner; and in giving a shout out to all the other winners as well as few personal faves. What a marvelous batch of entries.

*guilt sets in*

Date: 2014-06-03 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetwhip.livejournal.com
Ugh! Sorry you are stuck with such poor tools.


Gabrielle

Date: 2014-06-03 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I have to laugh at myself now. I do sound whiny, don't I? And children are starving in Africa - princess problems. Ah, I just came back from a couple of hours gardening, it puts things in perspective.

Also, my ladylove brought back the keyboard! (I hope she doesn't want it back *runs and hides*)

Date: 2014-06-03 05:43 pm (UTC)
ext_106804: (thumbs up)
From: [identity profile] teragramm.livejournal.com
Thank you for the birthday wishes and again congrats on the award. I do think you did a brilliant job on that icon!

Date: 2014-06-03 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness thank you again, hon. I really do need to get a blushing icon because I am right now. (Isn't it always the case that the best things are often the least worked; and the harder I work on an icon the worse it turns out? At least for me that's the case.)

Date: 2014-06-03 05:53 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
Wow, that was definitely a deserved award, what a fabulous shot! ;)

Date: 2014-06-03 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! That was actually one I was trying to make for an otherworldlyrics challenge at the same time and couldn't get the text to work; I decided I liked it better without. the image was terrific, I didn't have to do much of anything at all.

Date: 2014-06-03 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
Beautiful icon, so simple but very touching. I'm glad it won. (Also great icons the other winners like the Willow ones and the Bangel ones)

I understand nothing about the technicalities of making an icon but I'm happy that there will be more.

Date: 2014-06-04 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I'm glad folks liked it sweetie! That was really an astonishingly good round. I loved the icons I submitted (the Spuffy icons were so much fun to make) and then I saw the other entries and - whoa. Rua's Willow icons and Temper's Bangel icons were definitely amoung my favorites but there were so many wonderful ones.

And I remember ten years ago I had no idea what an icon even was (I was on a Nicole Kidman fanboard, and we tended to refer to them as avatars or "avis" more often than icons. ) I had to ask someone to make me one because I had no clue about them! I still am in awe of people who do photoshop and gimp and the really detailed, advanced technical work. I'm just learning!

Oh one more art for you if you're not tired of them yet - I couldn't erase the line on this one without looking worse so I left it in:

Date: 2014-06-04 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
I like the black and white old photo feeling. Usually I love more the artworks with colors both fanart and icons. Apparently I'm a sucker for shiny colorful things. XD
Edited Date: 2014-06-04 11:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-04 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
thanks sweetie! I did a more lavender version too, I thought this would be subtler. I guess I should put all the versions of this series in one post?

Fotoflexer (the editing suite Photobucket used to use) had a vintage photo effect I liked. I collect antique photos of women, circa 1900; I've used them as my avatars on facebook and google/gmail.

But I've also something of the crow in my - I like shiny things too! I l can't decide so I want them both! (Antique jewelry, yay!)

Date: 2014-06-04 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
Maybe making a post with all the version is the best decision. You can compare them and see what people like the most. Also it's interesting to explore the "making of". And I'm also curious about the new icons, but I don't know if you can post them.

Date: 2014-06-04 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I love doing that sort of thing, the making of, or reading them by other people. Maybe with a poll?

I need to ask comlodge how to put in a photo so when someone clicks it they get the bigger version.

I'm also curious about the new icons

The ones of antique photos? I've had those for many years actually. Or do you mean the last set for slayerstillness? I want to put those up as well.

Edited Date: 2014-06-04 05:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-04 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
I'm curious about the slayerstillness icons. The antique icons are beautiful!

Date: 2014-06-04 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Thank you very much! Some of my antique photos were damaged in the fire, I didn't scan all of them beforehand but I did scan some of my favorites. (the girl on the right hand photo is still in my collection thank goodness.)

The slayerstillness icons were a ton of fun to make, but trying to do icons for three different challenges at the same time got a little confusing.

Date: 2014-06-04 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
Can't wait to see the Buffy icons as always. XD

Date: 2014-06-03 07:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] debris4spike
Wow - well done, never thought that was yours ... it's am amazing crop. Although thinking about it I know you have said about hands and their use in the BtVS story.

LOL - I guessed you would have loads of alternatives - maybe that's where my icons aren't as great ... but easier as I only make one at a time!! Good luck with the rest of the work.

Date: 2014-06-03 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Oh I thought the coloring and framing device made it completely obvious it was mine! True story: I looked at the entries and assumed I wouldn't win anything except maybe, maybe best crop.

I know you have said about hands and their use in the BtVS story.

It just occured to me today that "hands" would be a great theme for me to claim in a future 20 in 20 because there are so many great images: Buffy's dreams of Angels hand's turning to sand or bleeding; holding and fighting; hugging; Faith and Buffy in TYG/Who are You; Willow/Tara in Hush, Glory and tara in Tough Love, etc etc.

BTW - I was pretty certain the Willow icon from NA #1 was Rua's, but I think it made a great parallel to the one you did for btvs_hush - similar coloring, yours was about seeking knowledge, blossoming or unfolding outward, her's was about willful or imposed blindness, refusing to see, retreating. but there were so many great ones. I voted your giles icon best color but I could have split that vote five ways. And all of temper's Bangel icons - lovely!

maybe that's where my icons aren't as great

WHAT?????

The important thing is one good icon, well-made. Your Beer Bad icon, for instance - I'm trying to figure out how to make room to snag it because it's perfect, no variations needed. Same with the Servalan icon I snagged, or your Buffy in Selfless icon, etc. That to me is the thing I want to learn, to make something and be able to say "done", know when it's right and move on.

If playing with color variations is something you want to do by all means do so - and your work so far proves that your art teacher was speaking out his bottom all those years ago. Don't let the words of a moron stop you!

I had over 100 icons in my folder this morning for the 20 in 20, I've pared that down considerably and deleted a lot. It's easy for me to get caught up in the giddiness of playing with effects and color variations. Sometimes it does yield positive results (some of my moulin rouge icons, the Buffy artworks I've just posted) and other times I look at what I've done and realize I've achieved quantity over quality.

There is one variation of the icon of Faith's hand. A lot of my icons are one-and-done, and I'm trying to be sterner with myself.

Date: 2014-06-03 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snogged.livejournal.com
Congrats on winning best crop. That was an excellent icon. :)

Good luck with your 20in20. Sorry you have to deal with a shitty laptop. :/

Date: 2014-06-04 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Thanks sweetie! I thought it might maybe win Best Crop just because it's an unusual image.

It's funny I was grateful to have that laptop back in September after the fire and now it's like, how in the world did I ever do anything with it? I'm back on the desktop now, thank goodness!

Date: 2014-06-04 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com
Thanks for the birthday wish!

Date: 2014-06-04 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
You're welcome! I've been meaning to do that forever but life keeps getting in the way. I need to properly pimp your latest drabbles (Angel growling about using their skins as a rug and Buffy just rolling her eyes - too funny!)

Date: 2014-06-04 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks! Those crazy kids are running amok in my head again. About time! I'd missed this 'verse. Only hope that in a couple of months I can return to my Potential!Buffy world. I left Angel waiting for Buffy so they could investigate some nasty witchy-looking shenanigans at school, and he must be getting impatient. He really did NOT want to go to a basketball game. *eyeroll*

Date: 2014-06-04 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Who would want to go to that basketball game? (sorry, just having a flashback to college and those season tickets my mom should not have bought me. *lol*)

The fact that you're excited about the verse is great because that always shows in the storytelling.

I left Angel waiting for Buffy so they could investigate some nasty witchy-looking shenanigans at school, and he must be getting impatient.

But he'll wait for her nonetheless, won't he? ;)

Wednesday, June 4

Date: 2014-06-05 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
User [livejournal.com profile] oni_9 referenced to your post from Wednesday, June 4 (http://su-herald.livejournal.com/727018.html) saying: [...] She's Come Undone (pt 3) [...]

Date: 2014-06-05 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
Thank you, sweetie! I had a very lovely birthday visiting family. I'm actually away on vacation catching up with my dad on the farm in Minnesota.

I absolutely love that icon. Of course, it won! It's just gorgeous. It sounds like you're having fun (and frustration, but that's part of getting to the fun, right?) with making icons. Loving the results!

Date: 2014-06-05 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Oh goodness hello, you!



It sounds like you're having a marvelous time; what sort of farm does your family have? Are you all done with uni yet or just the semester?

And thanks ever so much for the compliment sweetie! I'm happy with how that one came out too.

Fun and frustration in equal measure, oh yes indeed. I'm back to 100 icons of Buffy and I only need 20. *lol*

Date: 2014-06-06 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikesredqueen.livejournal.com
Many congrats!!! I voted for that icon, I love it!

Date: 2014-06-06 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks hon! I thought it might get best crop, but I wasn't invested in that happening, you know? This was such an amazing batch of entries. (I thought one of the Spuffy ones might get more interest than they did. I chuckled like anything making a Broken Halleluliah - I had a blast trying out new effects.)

I'm not going to enter the current round and I don't have time to enter any other challenges until I get this 20in20 out of the way. What about you?

Date: 2014-06-07 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikesredqueen.livejournal.com
I don't think I will for right now, I signed up for character20in20, tvcharacter20in20, and just finished tvshow20in20 last night. I tend to like the 20in20s more I think because they give you more time to work on the icons, but don't get me wrong I like slayerstillness and OWL but they go by too quick at times for me.

Date: 2014-06-09 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I don't think I will for right now, I signed up for character20in20, tvcharacter20in20, and just finished tvshow20in20 last night.

Slacker *lol*

I tend to like the 20in20s more I think because they give you more time to work on the icons, but don't get me wrong I like slayerstillness and OWL but they go by too quick at times for me.

Definite agreement. Sometimes the short time is good - I have to come up with ideas FAST. And since I tend to make 5-9x more icons than I need, I have less time to overthink stuff. But then I can't really explore ideas and I'm always missing deadlines.

My entries for this 20in20 include the comics icons that were inspired by the round and made me decide to sign up for it, all the way to ones made the day before or day of. And I've got several ideas for future claims or at least icon projects. OWL and SS are so specific to their prompts.

I definitely need to get faster at it though. Is making 5-9x more icons than needed (I did the math) unusual? Is that just me or what?

Date: 2014-06-10 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikesredqueen.livejournal.com
I don't think it's just you. I make at least 5 extra or more per challenge because I'll make it and decide to try another one and whatever one I like best goes as my entry. If I like the extras I will add them with it. But trust me, I go through lots that I don't like and trash and start all over lol

I've seen lots of people have a bunch of extras/alternates with their posts before. :)

Date: 2014-06-13 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
But trust me, I go through lots that I don't like and trash and start all over lol

Very reassuring to know, thank you so much! I'm in a "needing much encouragement" mood, sadly.

Date: 2014-06-07 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chic-c.livejournal.com
Congratulations dear! A wonderful icon indeed! \o/
And thank you so much for the b-day wishes, I try to "forget" about it but I'm happy when friends remember. :D
I hear your pain with the stress of working on an uncooperative machine, a certain cause of headache. :(
Now off to comment on your 20in20. :)

Date: 2014-06-13 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
And thank you so much for the b-day wishes, I try to "forget" about it but I'm happy when friends remember.

I hear you! I used to love getting attention on my birthdays, now I'm torn between enjoying the attention like a child, and not wanting anyone to know.

And thanks for the compliment to my icon!
Edited Date: 2014-06-13 01:10 pm (UTC)

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