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There's a couple of items about Buffy Summers that I've seen in several fanfics and wondered if they were "canon" or "fanon" information. I don't trust my memory, especially when I've probably spent more hours at this point reading fanfiction than actually watching the show. (What that says about me I shudder to imagine.)



By "canon", I am of course referring to BtVS, seasons 1-7 only, not the comics (aka Get behind me, Satan!)
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1) Is Buffy's given name "Buffy" or "Elizabeth"?  I've read "Elizabeth Anne Summers" used in several fanfics and it feels like it might have been mentioned somewhere in S1-3 on the show, if at all?
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Actually, I just wanted an excuse to post this screencap. But while you're here:
2) Does Buffy refer to herself in third person at any other point on the show except for Life Serial: "stupid Buffy" "freak Buffy"?  A lot of stories have her refer to herself in this way, usually when she's berating herself, although generally not while drunk. (For someone who can't hold her liquor she seems to drink quite a lot of it in LS. Slayer metabolism, apparently.) 

Also, she generally does so whilst kicking herself mentally over something regarding Spike, so do early season/Bangel 'ship writers have her referring to herself in this manner as well?
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No, no further questions; I just love SMG in this episode so damn much I can hardly stand it. I mean - come on, Giles, how can you resist that face? Buttons and puppies are weeping in envy.  Now do your duty to your Slayer and hand her the check without making her feel like it's an act of charity on your part. 


I love Giles, I do. But damn it, he can be an ass sometimes.

Date: 2013-01-03 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
We should totally make a topic about Buffyverse and Foodporn. Delicious!

Well it'd be a kind of short topic; the characters don't eat very often (on btvs anyway) given that we spend essentially seven years with them. As someone who loves to cook and eat I know I'm very aware of that. But hey, go for it! On some levels, Spike is the most food-oriented (i.e. pleasure-oriented) character on the show.

I've read an interesting essay/thesis on the Slayage Journal online identifying the consumption of bespelled/drugged foods in Ted and Band Candy by Joyce and/or Giles, as a metaphor for drug useage by their generation, leading to selfish pleasure and neglect of parental duties. (I don't agree with it 100% but it's interesting in light of the subject matter.)

Date: 2013-01-03 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
Interesting subject indeed!
I don't know if I agree totally. I mean, Joyce seems very careless in the first seasons, watching so little for Buffy, but "the whole generation" thingy seems a bad generalization. Also, the parenting model changed. In Victorian/First decades of 900 time was much more severe and authoritarian while today we can talk with our parents in a different way. I don't think that this is negleting something. (I'm sorry, maybe I'm going widly Off Topic.)

About the foodporn: you know, I didn't mean it like how much they eat. They eat a little, especially Buffy. (Btw, there is a Tumblr "What Buffy eats" that shows images of the Slayer with the food in all the episodes and seasons. And Buffy eats a little.) I wanted to play a game of associations (For example Buffy= vanilla) since it seems popular to associate certain characters with particular tastes and flavors. I'm doing it tomorrow, tired now.
Spike should be covered in Nutella (The brand name of a chocolate hazelnut spread. Very delicious) And I'm totally serious about it! *grins*

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