Yeah, and I think the show helps with that by not introducing us to any of his victims, except for Nikki Wood,
Actually, in School Hard, Sheila is one of his first victims. (Remember the school's sexually-experienced "bad girl" who hangs out on the wrong side of the tracks, as contrasted with Buffy? and holy shit is that some wonky sexual politics there, Joss) He hides her, bound and gagged, behind the bedroom door and then before leaving Dru he encourages her to "eat something" and throws the terrified girl at Dru; the last thing we see is Dru vamping out.
I don't know what to call that except psychological torture with a sexualized component (bound and gagged, a common trope in torture porn fics) - as well as physical torture, because vamps feed on living humans. It's interesting to rewatch S2 to remind myself what Spike was like before the show (and fandom) woobified him. He was a fucking VAMPIRE, kiddies. He fed off terrified living human beings, and the terror of the victims is part of the thrill, what he "fed" off of in addition to blood. This is truth. Just because he didn't plan things in advance like some elaborate stage show like Angelus doesn't mean he didn't engage in torture or didn't enjoy the suffering of his victims. It just means he has a short attention span, no impulse control, and an inability/unwillingness to plan ahead, like some teenager with ADHD.
what would happen if someone like Robin Wood, who had family Spike killed, showed up in S4-S6, before he had the soul.
Pretty much the same thing that happened in LMPTM, to be honest. That is one area I think the show (and subsequently fandom) fell down - the perpetrator's POV is prioritized over that of the victims. lanoyee and I were talking about this in regards to LMPTM as a matter of fact. http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/17490.html?thread=375634#t375634 As she said, they went pretty over the top in terms of Spike beating the shit out of Robin and even seeming to bite him - but not doing so just to prove to himself he was in control? Yeah, that's some problematic shit there, and it doesn't get a fraction of the attention that DT does, for instance.
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Date: 2013-06-30 11:52 pm (UTC)Actually, in School Hard, Sheila is one of his first victims. (Remember the school's sexually-experienced "bad girl" who hangs out on the wrong side of the tracks, as contrasted with Buffy? and holy shit is that some wonky sexual politics there, Joss) He hides her, bound and gagged, behind the bedroom door and then before leaving Dru he encourages her to "eat something" and throws the terrified girl at Dru; the last thing we see is Dru vamping out.
I don't know what to call that except psychological torture with a sexualized component (bound and gagged, a common trope in torture porn fics) - as well as physical torture, because vamps feed on living humans. It's interesting to rewatch S2 to remind myself what Spike was like before the show (and fandom) woobified him. He was a fucking VAMPIRE, kiddies. He fed off terrified living human beings, and the terror of the victims is part of the thrill, what he "fed" off of in addition to blood. This is truth. Just because he didn't plan things in advance like some elaborate stage show like Angelus doesn't mean he didn't engage in torture or didn't enjoy the suffering of his victims. It just means he has a short attention span, no impulse control, and an inability/unwillingness to plan ahead, like some teenager with ADHD.
what would happen if someone like Robin Wood, who had family Spike killed, showed up in S4-S6, before he had the soul.
Pretty much the same thing that happened in LMPTM, to be honest. That is one area I think the show (and subsequently fandom) fell down - the perpetrator's POV is prioritized over that of the victims.
http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/17490.html?thread=375634#t375634
As she said, they went pretty over the top in terms of Spike beating the shit out of Robin and even seeming to bite him - but not doing so just to prove to himself he was in control? Yeah, that's some problematic shit there, and it doesn't get a fraction of the attention that DT does, for instance.