They want their daughter to move out, be successful, yet second guess and undermine them because they don't trust them to have authority in their own life.
YES, exactly. And it's hypocritical of him after walking out on her in S6, but it's something that happens in RL all the time; humans can love one another and have the best intentions and still hurt each other.
Absolutely right about the Scoob's being in character; and in hindsight I actually cut them all a lot of slack because - where were they supposed to learn these wonderful values that everyone wants them to have and be totally mature and supportive? They each have rather broken homes, unstable or unavailable parents, etc; they basically are having to make it up as they go along. Doesn't mean I enjoy watching it, but it's not OOC or all that unrealistic. In fact, it's almost too realistic.
I don't know if Spike walking out was OOC for him at that point; as he said to Wood earlier to the "How's that [the soul] going for you?" "In progress" Spike in S7 is very much a work in progress; and we've seen him back away from demons and physical fights, so in a way this is an extension of that - trying to back down from a (verbal) fight and Buffy calls him on the carpet. I just rewatched it btw, and the callback to Smashed in her "I'm nowhere near him" line struck me as significant.
After all, *they* were the ones who suffered for it in the long run.
True but intention and outcome are two different things.
Like I see Buffy killing Caleb as the slaying of her daddy issue.
Hadn't thought of that but it works for me! I do think it's funny that Angel is out of commission most of the scene, just as he was generally pretty useless in the early seasons, and that's the point - big hero to come and save the day and he doesn't. Again.
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Date: 2013-04-18 06:44 pm (UTC)YES, exactly. And it's hypocritical of him after walking out on her in S6, but it's something that happens in RL all the time; humans can love one another and have the best intentions and still hurt each other.
Absolutely right about the Scoob's being in character; and in hindsight I actually cut them all a lot of slack because - where were they supposed to learn these wonderful values that everyone wants them to have and be totally mature and supportive? They each have rather broken homes, unstable or unavailable parents, etc; they basically are having to make it up as they go along. Doesn't mean I enjoy watching it, but it's not OOC or all that unrealistic. In fact, it's almost too realistic.
I don't know if Spike walking out was OOC for him at that point; as he said to Wood earlier to the "How's that [the soul] going for you?" "In progress" Spike in S7 is very much a work in progress; and we've seen him back away from demons and physical fights, so in a way this is an extension of that - trying to back down from a (verbal) fight and Buffy calls him on the carpet. I just rewatched it btw, and the callback to Smashed in her "I'm nowhere near him" line struck me as significant.
After all, *they* were the ones who suffered for it in the long run.
True but intention and outcome are two different things.
Like I see Buffy killing Caleb as the slaying of her daddy issue.
Hadn't thought of that but it works for me! I do think it's funny that Angel is out of commission most of the scene, just as he was generally pretty useless in the early seasons, and that's the point - big hero to come and save the day and he doesn't. Again.