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clockwork_hart1 created a "multi-fandom" Gods and Monsters ficathon and I'm calling it ongoing because there are tons of great prompts and new ones being added constantly; so fill a prompt with a fic or artwork, and check out the works of art on the masterlist.

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If you don't believe my "brilliant beyond belief" description then please read her Buffyverse/Doctor Who crossover fic (death) for my birthday. Dawn is the Tardis. Dawn slides under and then there are hands on her chest and water spilling up her throat and for a moment Dawn is as big as the room and spreading further outward, as far as she can reach. (I fear Lucy might think I haven't read it because I didn't comment but oh goodness, I have. Or rather I didn't read it, I made it part of my life because her prose slides under my skin as easily as Dawn submerges herself beneath the water.) If "I'm not familiar with fandom X" is worrying to you, don't let it put you off; I haven't seen any of the new Who series myself although I'm vaguely aware of the players. (Seven and Ace were my Doctor and companion, when I was in college and introduced to the series.)

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clockwork_hart1. She is nonpareil!

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Indeed she is! She should have shrines erected in her honor. With masses of flower and silken banners.

In the midst of watching my new DVD of Sylvester McCoy's Doctor and Ace in Battlefield.

kerk

Sweet! I don't remember if I saw that one or not; I def. remember Time and the Rani, Survival (the last of the 7th Doctor and Ace) and The Curse of Fenric. What do you think of the 7th Doctor and Ace? At the time my friends and I loved the fact that Ace's story foregrounded so many episodes, and the overt surrogate father-daughter relationship. And the 7th Doctor's goofy exterior (a science fantasy Columbo) masking a steely core.

Brigadier Winifred Bambera; Bessie AND Ace! What's not to love?

ANCELYN: Yes, My Lady.

BAMBERA: You call me, 'My Lady' once more and I'll slice your head off!

~~~
BAMBERA (climbing into car): So, you married, or what?

(later)

ANCELYN: Tell me, My Lady... Art thou betrothed?

~~~
Fave Companions: Ace; Sarah-Jane; Liz Shaw.

They were the best pairing in the roles ever; unfortunately; as with Colin Baker's Doctor, they were undermined by a BBC wanting to kill the series off. Eventually they (never actually cancelled) just never made anymore; not even bothering to celebrate the 30th Anniversary.

kerk

I can see now that Seven and Ace were one pair in a line of my favorite "surrogate father-daughter pairings". I have a thing for that. (not biological father-daughters, oddly enough.)

they were undermined by a BBC wanting to kill the series off. Eventually they (never actually cancelled) just never made anymore; not even bothering to celebrate the 30th Anniversary.

We were watching the series in college and it was "live" (or as current as the US stations could get it) and then it just - ended. "Hiatus" we were told - we should have known that meant "cancelled". An ignominious ending to a 30 year tv landmark that deserved more respect from the BBC.

One of my friends at the time told me that Doctor Who was still pretty much considered a kids' show in the UK while here in the US it was cherished by college students and adults. (Especially the Tom Baker years.)

You're making me regret that we gave up Netflix btw because they had both the new and classic seasons on instant stream and I didn't take advantage of it.

clockwork_hart1 is amazing.
Thanks for sharing the rec. I hadn't seen that one.

P.S. I am watching the new series of Who. I started with 9, but I consider the 10th doctor to be my doctor. Favorite companions include: Rose, Martha, and Amy Pond.

You're welcome! There's so many amazing stories on Lucy's journal it's easy enough to miss one.

I started with 9, but I consider the 10th doctor to be my doctor.

One of my best (ex-)friends was a HUGE David Tennant fan and what I know about new Who I learned mostly from her.

I've only seen two eps with new Who, one with Nine that I can't really describe too well, and one with Martha and Ten meeting Shakespeare. Elisi tried to get me to watch the episodes with River Song and I want to but then I read too much and am disappointed by what I read and am hesitant to get into it. The effects are certainly impressive and mile beyond anything in old school Who. Are you all the way to the current Doctor? (12 I think?)

Yes. I've watched every episode in order since 9 (with one exception - the Amy/Rory wedding episode. I had made a spur of the moment trip to see a friend and he was watching that one. I was still on Martha Jones when I saw the episode.)

I like the 12th doctor, but I don't think he has much chemistry with Clara.

I remember your Amy/Rory icon! Was it confusing to see that out of order like that?

I've seen Matt Smith referred to as "the American Doctor" why is that?

I like the 12th doctor, but I don't think he has much chemistry with Clara.

I think it's kind of interesting that Capaldi represents a return to the older Doctors (1 - 3, 7) and the Doctor as sort of a fatherly/grandfatherly or authority figure after three younger Doctors. (I don't know if 9 and 11 are considered sex symbols but my friend threw over her obsession with Ewan McGregor for Tennant. I admit, I never quite got it.) I wonder if that will turn out to be a wise casting decision or not.

A little, but I was glad to see the episode. I had a rough day prior to seeing said friend. He fed me pizza and Amy and Rory helped my mood.

I've never seen Matt Smith referred to as "The American Doctor." But I do know he had some idiosyncrasies that might set him up to be viewed that way (especially the episode where he was blatantly dressed as a cowboy.)

I think Capaldi is a great choice for a doctor.

I just think they should have cast a new companion. Clara should have ended with the 11th doctor.

I just think they should have cast a new companion. Clara should have ended with the 11th doctor.

Don't they often have a companion carry over as a sort of "bridge" element from an old doctor to the new one? (I haven't made a study of it. But that's not always true either. Maybe it was something to do with the actress' contract?)

Something I know from my brief time in live theater - what the actors/director see and what the audience sees are two different things. So, when we knew and worked with each other, the bits that someone came up with would delight us but meant nothing to the audience. That might be the same thing here - or maybe the show runner had a particular story to tell and WHY am I playing devil's advocate here for a show I haven't even seen? STOP ME NOW.

WHY am I playing devil's advocate here for a show I haven't even seen? STOP ME NOW.
*giggles*

The companions aren't always a bridge - Martha Jones, Donna, and Amy Pond never experienced a change in the doctors. They did experience a change in show-runners, however. Let me give you a break-down:

Russell T Davies
9th Doctor: Rose Tyler
10th Doctor: Rose Tyler, Martha Jones, Donna Noble

Stephen Moffatt
11th Doctor: Amy Pond, Amy Pond and Rory, Clara Oswin Oswald
12th Doctor: Class Oswin Oswald

I don't count River Song as a companion. She's the Doctor's Wife.

She's the Doctor's Wife.

Is she also Susan's grandmother or no? (does the series ever deal with the Doctor's children? )

I don't think there have been any references to Susan.

But there was an episode called the Doctor's Daughter.

I tried to read through the wikipedia description of the ep and I get I'm missing stuff because i haven't watched the series but it still felt like a chunk of the synopsis was missing.

ETA: the funny thing was that Susan wasn't supposed to be his granddaughter, just a companion but this being the 1960's the networks had issues with a very young girl flying around in a box with an old man. (Which is not just a 1960's thing - probably the reason they had to make the point in Helpless about Giles having a "father's love for the child". Because when you start to think about it....which is why it's best not to think about it.)

Edited 2015-10-09 02:52 (UTC)

Me, butting in: I believe Matt Smith is referred to as the American Doctor because his was the first series made in conjunction with BBC America and (I think?) the episodes were aired almost simultaneously here and in the US and a bunch of them were filmed over the atlantic

Ok that makes sense thank you Lucy!

The new Doctor Who is really just another show to me; as much as I loved S5; mostly because of Amy/Rory; wee!amelia and Fish Custard.

I managed to make it to halfway in S6 of the new show, but I could see where it was going and knew that I didn't want to follow. Before S6 ALL River Songs eps are absolute classics though; even the two-parter in the Library.

Blink is possibly amongst the best Doctor Who ever filmed, and I loved seeing Sarah-Jane and the Doctor meet; as well as The Girl in the Fireplace but, as much as I enjoyed those two eps it made me realise that if the show wasn't called Doctor Who, I probably wouldn;t be watching it.

kerk

Fish Custard???

I managed to make it to halfway in S6 of the new show, but I could see where it was going and knew that I didn't want to follow. Before S6 ALL River Songs eps are absolute classics though;

I've tried not to read spoilers but I suspect I'll be unhappy with where they take River. S5 is probably what

elisi was referring to when she urged me to watch River. (someday, someday)

Carey Mulligan was in Blink? Oh this I do need to see. Thank you for the advice and recommendations, this will be very helpful when I finally do get around to watching the new seasons.

as I enjoyed those two eps it made me realise that if the show wasn't called Doctor Who, I probably wouldn;t be watching it.

'splainy?

I came here to say HI, I LOVE YOU, RECC'ING ME AND SUCH

and then I found it hilarious that this whole post became The Doctor Who Discourse 2015, because that is the level of humour i posses &such.

I feel like I also have things to add to The Discourse but I'm at a loss. My main feelings about the show in general are GIRLS♥ which isn't much help and I mainly run on my own personal memories and headcanons than actual canon, because we all know i know the characters better than the writers do and would never fuck them over in such ways. cough cough.

then I found it hilarious that this whole post became The Doctor Who Discourse 2015,

And I have NO IDEA how that happened.

because we all know i know the characters better than the writers do and would never fuck them over in such ways. cough cough.

*le sigh*

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