I saw that exchange. Thought it was quite special. No, the show wasn't 100% about Buffy. Just 92% about her.
When Spike goes on his "I did it for you, the soul, the changes" bit in S7 I roll my eyes a lot. I've been on the receiving end of "I did such and such FOR YOU (without asking you if that's what you wanted first) so why aren't you sufficiently grateful?" too many times, and I dare say I've dished it out more than once.
Well, it goes back to the male entitlement thing. Funny bit is it's the same logic Xanderfen use. And yes, she never once asked him to get a soul.
As for using, I made a post about it a long time ago (I think you commented on it) about sex being a metaphor for power in S6 S/B and it works about as well as the magic!crack. Yes, Buffy used Spike to depower herself*, the sex was just the method. And that's the hangup, you know? Because it hinges on the idea that sex is bad (pretty common for Whedon) AND the idea that being a sub is some kind of degrading ugly kink. Be that as it may, that is just how it reads to me.
I love it when she calls him on the carpet in Get it Done.
Definitely. I can see complaints about doing it privately, but I think it's telling of Spike that he'd just get up and walk out while she was talking as though none of it applied to him. It's even noted in the script. Bah. Nearly everyone in that scene annoys me. Friends don't let friends bury dead girls by themselves, guys!
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I saw that exchange. Thought it was quite special. No, the show wasn't 100% about Buffy. Just 92% about her.
When Spike goes on his "I did it for you, the soul, the changes" bit in S7 I roll my eyes a lot. I've been on the receiving end of "I did such and such FOR YOU (without asking you if that's what you wanted first) so why aren't you sufficiently grateful?" too many times, and I dare say I've dished it out more than once.
Well, it goes back to the male entitlement thing. Funny bit is it's the same logic Xanderfen use. And yes, she never once asked him to get a soul.
As for using, I made a post about it a long time ago (I think you commented on it) about sex being a metaphor for power in S6 S/B and it works about as well as the magic!crack. Yes, Buffy used Spike to depower herself*, the sex was just the method. And that's the hangup, you know? Because it hinges on the idea that sex is bad (pretty common for Whedon) AND the idea that being a sub is some kind of degrading ugly kink. Be that as it may, that is just how it reads to me.
I love it when she calls him on the carpet in Get it Done.
Definitely. I can see complaints about doing it privately, but I think it's telling of Spike that he'd just get up and walk out while she was talking as though none of it applied to him. It's even noted in the script. Bah. Nearly everyone in that scene annoys me. Friends don't let friends bury dead girls by themselves, guys!