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My sweetie is not too fond of the idea of me creating and storing Pages docs (the Mac version of Word) on her laptop, now our only computer; she's worried about it filling up etc. (I love that woman, oh how I do, but....ever seen the scene in the movie The Kids Are Alright re: "micromanaging"? That's pretty much us.)

So I'd like to have a place where I can create, edit and store documents online and store them there, now that I've just filled up another notebook with fic drafts and meta notes; something along the lines of Photobucket, but for documents rather than photos.


FYI: the simpler the better. I've heard of iCloud and still have no idea what it is (despite <lj user=comlodge>'s careful explanation of it); I'm pretty computer savvy in some ways but most of y'all are way ahead of me in a lot of other areas. Thanks muchly!

Date: 2013-10-07 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
I also tend to be not that organized which can be awfully frustrating as I try to write my first novel!

Date: 2013-10-07 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
You're working on a novel? Good for you! (I've learned that I'm not good at multi-chapter formats. Why am I then writing a buffyverse fic that is just that is...masochism, I think.)

May I ask what the subject/story/genre is?

Date: 2013-10-08 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Oh, it's totally based off of Buffy fanfic. Instead of Slayers I have Seraphs (at least that's the current name) who are people descended from angels. Obviously there's no "one Chosen girl in all the world" since this is a genetic thing. It's based off my Lotus in Muddy Water BtVS AU series although I'll hopefully 1) finish it and 2) do a better job of writing it. I'm hoping to crank out the first draft for NaNoWriMo.

Date: 2013-10-08 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
That's a really intriguing idea - but isn't ALL art based on other artworks? Nobody creates in a vacuum - and before "copyright laws" existed, I think it was more commonly acknowledged between artists. (William Blake called his friend Henry Fuseli, "damned good to steal from" and that was a compliment.) It'll be interesting to see how you adapt elements of the series while making it something original. (I once tried my hand at that with a Moulin Rouge fic - starting with changing the names and shifting the setting, going AU from certain events; but I couldn't manage a multichap fic.)

Links! Shiny! I just followed the link to your AO3 page and began reading so FYI - you're going to get a bunch of comments in your email from me. (I have that tendency - read a whole bunch of a particular author's stories in one sitting.)

And I have heard of NaNoWriMo. I've never done it but a friend of mine, Kendra Saunders (who has published several novels and has another one just coming out "Death and Mr Right") has done it.

Date: 2013-10-08 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
I think some art tries to be influenced by others without blatantly stealing from them. On the other hand there is on BtVS writer (I'm spacing the name now) who regularly talks about what they stole from where when creating Buffy episodes.

Mostly it's high-level / world stuff that's similar: a girl with superpowers, a group that provides knowledge back-up. I don't believe Joss ever put the Holy Grail into his stories and it will feature fairly heavily in my first novel. Also no evil-angels in his verse, in fact no angels at all. ;-)

I saw all the AO3 comments. Fun! ;-)

Date: 2013-10-08 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Glad you liked the comments!

I have toyed with the idea of doing meta on the Christian imagery in Prophecy Girl and The Gift re: Buffy and Dawn primarily. Joss may be an "atheist" but he is shaped by the culture he grew up in as we all are, and to speak to a particular audience it's necessary to use the imagery and symbolism we share in common. In the past 30 years though I think it's more openly acknowledged by certain artists as "homages" rather than stealing (as a way to avoid lawsuits?): think of Baz Luhrmann's Moulin Rouge or just about anything by Quentin Tarantino. The difference nowadays is the open acknowledgement of the "theft", and a certain post-modern "ironic" stance.

Date: 2013-10-08 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, there's definitely Christian imagery in the Joss!verse and there are certainly powerful artifacts. I just don't believe he's ever specifically used the Grail. Oooh, which means I'm ripping off Monty Python! Excellent. *does happy dance*

What was Luhrmann homaging (is that a verb?) in Moulin Rouge? I love that movie but I don't believe I ever realized it was referencing another movie. Unless you're referring to the music. I thought that was very clever, using a variety of recognizable songs one after the other like that to enhance the chaotic mood of the scene.

And great examples of "borrowing". Mine were Twilight and 50 Shades! I feel as if I'm in much better company now! ;-)

Date: 2013-10-09 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Oooh, which means I'm ripping off Monty Python! Excellent. *does happy dance*

May I join the dance? :)

What was Luhrmann homaging (is that a verb?) in Moulin Rouge?

Oh goodness do you have an hour or so? These are some things just off the top of my head:
-Christian's storyline borrows heavily from the myth of Orpheus.
-Satine's story in the original draft of the script (very different from the movie) borrowed heavily from Alexendar Dumas' La Dame Aux Camillas, about a dying courtesan; which was later adapted as the opera La Traviata (Luhrmann has directed stage versions of it), as well as the movie Camille with Greta Garbo. (Most of that material was cut; in the original Satine had a son and had a history with Christian's father - no it didn't make sense to me when I read it - but Luhrmann decided to cut most of that out to focus on Christian's story.)
-The red satin dress ("smoldering temptress") is a direct homage to the black sheath gown worn by Rita Hayworth in the movie for the musical number "Put the Blame on Mame" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZn86sSWtEQ
-The Sound of Music in the sequence where Christian first meets the Bohemians and that's the first song that pours out of his mouth
-"Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend" from the stage play "Gentlemen Prefer Blonds" with Carol Channing that was adapted into the 1953 movie and sung by Marilyn Monroe, in the number that was also ripped off for Madonna's "Material Girl" video - so that number self-consciously references both Monroe and Madonna. (Satine was pretty much designed as a stand-in/homage to all of the great movie and pop music divas of the last 60 years.) http://vimeo.com/56710275

I'd have to look it up to add more, I haven't watched it or the featurettes in ages. (I got the box set and it pretty much set the standard for 'deluxe' special features, or at least until LoTR came along.)

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