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red_satin_doll ([personal profile] red_satin_doll) wrote2013-04-19 02:36 pm

"School Hard" / "Chosen"


Like Mother, Like Daughter original artwork a gift to me from [livejournal.com profile] comlodge, an amazing artist and generous friend. Check out the original on her journal.



Apparently, Buffy isn't the only Summers woman who is going to be "a fireman [sic] when the floods roll back."

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] beer_good_foamy reminded me that Joyce's threat to Spike, "You get the HELL away from my daughter!" (Rock on, Joyce!) could be seen as applicable to Buffy's actions in Chosen, if we consider the new Slayers as her metaphorical "offspring".  (What's the plural for "childe"?)


Or, Kendra was her "daughter", Faith her "granddaughter", then Buffy and Faith got together and now the new Slayers have two mommies - which. ok, is kind of
incest-y, but no worse than the Fanged Four, right?

 And Willow is their midwife. Something like that.

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Re: I knew I forgot to say something last time!

[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2013-04-26 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)

Which is good thing, but trying to write about Buffy's story and BtVS as a whole without mentioning Spike - or S6 - or anything that could possibly, ever ever offend or upset anyone? MAJOR challenge.

I used to be like that. Then I quit caring about offending people. :P Eventually you just get tired of the same old arguments, usually with the same old people. I say almost because it's unfair to hate a character or ship because of parts of their fanbase. I was really starting to dislike Spike for awhile because of some fans, but the fans were the problem, not the character. I just couldn't (and still can't) get my head around what some think the show was actually trying to say.*

I could never get into B/S/A because I just don't ever see Angel or Spike settling for something like that, nor do I really see Buffy settling either.

*This goes back to my one post about writers interacting with fans. Truth is, I don't think we get the AR without that S5-S6 writer/fan sniping. Writers were saying one thing, fans were arguing another. The writers swung the sledgehammer to prove their point. I know the official explanation is they needed it to happen for the soul quest, but I just don't buy it. You don't go that far for something like that.

Re: I knew I forgot to say something last time!

[identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com 2013-04-27 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Then I quit caring about offending people. :P Eventually you just get tired of the same old arguments, usually with the same old people.

I was re-reading two of my first posts here the other day (about Buffy, Spike and Riley) and realized I was a little more fearless then (last September). I think I'm getting back there but I'm trying to focus mostly on underexplored subjects or characters of the show rather than get into the same old arguments. but I can see some of those arguments as unavoidable. Maybe all the arguments? There are some things that I won't get into at this point (maybe later) because right now it's not worth it to me, I haven't figured out how to say things in a way that others haven't already, or someone else has pretty much "claimed" the character for themselves. So, whatever.

I say almost because it's unfair to hate a character or ship because of parts of their fanbase.

Very true. I don't find myself hating a character because of fans - more often, I get defensive on behalf of a character or because of interpretations that seem off or incomplete TO ME (which is what motivated my Ted meta, honestly). I don't presume to have the OTI (One True Interpretation). Except when I do (such as "Angel and Buffy have a forever love"? Um, no.)

I could never get into B/S/A

Neither could I until recently - and it's not something I see happening in canon (outside of fantasy) but I've found a couple of fanfics that write the threesome charmingly, so I can enjoy those for what they are. (I rarely read "Spangel"; if there isn't at least one woman involved in a ship, I'm usually not interested. Even from an erotic fantasy standpoint. And I don't love two male characters enough to want to seem them together to the exclusion of any and all women. YMMV)