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red_satin_doll ([personal profile] red_satin_doll) wrote2012-12-31 08:13 pm

Canon-related questions for Buffyologists

There's a couple of items about Buffy Summers that I've seen in several fanfics and wondered if they were "canon" or "fanon" information. I don't trust my memory, especially when I've probably spent more hours at this point reading fanfiction than actually watching the show. (What that says about me I shudder to imagine.)



By "canon", I am of course referring to BtVS, seasons 1-7 only, not the comics (aka Get behind me, Satan!)
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1) Is Buffy's given name "Buffy" or "Elizabeth"?  I've read "Elizabeth Anne Summers" used in several fanfics and it feels like it might have been mentioned somewhere in S1-3 on the show, if at all?
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Actually, I just wanted an excuse to post this screencap. But while you're here:
2) Does Buffy refer to herself in third person at any other point on the show except for Life Serial: "stupid Buffy" "freak Buffy"?  A lot of stories have her refer to herself in this way, usually when she's berating herself, although generally not while drunk. (For someone who can't hold her liquor she seems to drink quite a lot of it in LS. Slayer metabolism, apparently.) 

Also, she generally does so whilst kicking herself mentally over something regarding Spike, so do early season/Bangel 'ship writers have her referring to herself in this manner as well?
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No, no further questions; I just love SMG in this episode so damn much I can hardly stand it. I mean - come on, Giles, how can you resist that face? Buttons and puppies are weeping in envy.  Now do your duty to your Slayer and hand her the check without making her feel like it's an act of charity on your part. 


I love Giles, I do. But damn it, he can be an ass sometimes.
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[identity profile] stormwreath.livejournal.com 2013-03-28 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I posted it in your journal so of course you can link to it. :)

Regarding haiku: one thing I only learned recently is that it's not enough to just make them the right number of syllables: for a 'classic' haiku you also have to include a reference to the seasons, the time of year, the weather, what flowers are in bloom, or something similar.

A proper haiku
Is not just "five-seven-five":
Mention the season!


it feels to me increasingly that it's being played as Buffy really only has seen the cartoon version

Actually, in that scene Tara believes Buffy, and Buffy has to hastily backtrack and admit she's kidding. So there's the issue: if Buffy pretends she's a dumb blonde too often, the people around her will start to take her at her word.


Sex as a hobby? I think TV-show Buffy is too wrapped up in romantic teenage notions of True Love Forever to think of it in those terms. Cookie-dough-still-baking Buffy might be more inclined to see it that way, and they do kind of show that in S8 and S9.

[identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com 2013-03-28 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I posted it in your journal so of course you can link to it. :)

*facepalm* Oh yeah, right. I meant to say that.

for a 'classic' haiku you also have to include a reference to the seasons, the time of year, the weather, what flowers are in bloom, or something similar.

I'm quite certain I wasn't aware of that; but hardly the thing a fifth-grade teacher would throw out to her roomful of hyperactive charges. (alas)

Actually, in that scene Tara believes Buffy, and Buffy has to hastily backtrack and admit she's kidding. So there's the issue: if Buffy pretends she's a dumb blonde too often, the people around her will start to take her at her word.

I'd definitely forgotten that (if I hang around you long enough I'll be forced to do some serious rewatches so I'll stop embarrassing myself!)